Gartside is totally incompetent

According to the Bolton News, rag that it is,

Attention now turns to Megson’s successor. The Bolton News understands the Reebok hierarchy do not have anyone lined up to take over and are in no immediate rush to make an appointment.

How on earth could a competent administrator allow a situation where we were in the relegation places, our defence was a shambles and there was open warfare between the supporters and the manager and not have any idea who he would replace the manager with. I would not trust Gartside to run a corner shop. No rush to appoint a new manager, so he intends to let the transfer window slip by, us unable to take advantage like he has let half the season be wasted, we don't just need rid of Megson we need rid of Gartside too.

Until Gartside is quoted as saying as much I wouldn't worry yourself.

There is no rush,we don,t need to get some one in by the next game.

The problem is breeze you believe anything he tells you. You appear to be happy with whatever he decides, you probably believe him when he tells you the football world will understand why he appoints Jewell or Reid, no-one else will.

On the otherhand, Tim, you appear to be disgruntled no matter what the club does. Perhaps it's not the club or the football that you're unhappy about... have you considered talking to someone about what really makes you unhappy?

So mangler you really think it is a competent way to run the club, to drift into the transfer window, which may be crucial to our quest to stay up without a manager?
I will be happy with the club once we have a competent manager in place.

The club have sacked the manager and are now looking for a new one. They haven't issued a single word other than the initial statement. I'm not sure how you can be happy with them one minute and then angry the next without a single word being spoken.

Be patient.

You would presume that we have any money with which to make any difference to our predicament in January... we may well not have, the board would know this and therefore it is of no real consequence that the transfer window is upon us.

I believe (and I expect the board do too) that we have a talented (enough) squad that a decent manager could rejuvenate well enough to see us clear of trouble come the end of the season. So the no.1 critical thing now is that we appoint the best man for the job.

Talks are likely to be well under way - firstly between the board/decision makers to draw up a short-list, and further to that from the club to either prospective managers' agents or other clubs that we may be seeking permission to speak to their managers whom we covet.

On the otherhand the club could just rush these things in order to placate you and end up making the wrong appointment.

I do not like the idea of us acting in a way that we have seen from the likes of Citeh or Spurs or Liverpool, where they have a manager in place yet go behind his back to arrange his successor - I think it is poor form, and indeed incompetent should you prefer.

So to (finally) answer your question, yes I do think that we have acted competently.

This is business not the girl guides. We should have had a man in place to take over. If megson had had the chance to go and manager a bigger club he would have gone, there is nothing immoral in planning for the future. Why on earth they would be having to draw up a list now is beyond me, a constantly updated list should be in place bearing in mind the position we are in.

And yet again Tim demonstrates with some precision that he knows nothing about business.

Breeze perhaps at a low level that would not be the case, but you must know that in senior and time sensitive positions you would look to 'head-hunt' a successor before you moved on the incumbent. I understand you are upset that you have been proved to lack judgement and that your hero has gone and your other hero the poison dwarf is damaged goods now, but there is no need to take it personally.

Tim, if we had already got a manager lined up you would have accused the club of not taking its time and drawing up a short-list. You're a rather predictable chap.

You would need to know when the decision was made to sack Megson and you don't know when that was.

The decision to sack MEGSON was I assume taken over a number of weeks, the final straw being the HULL game.

The question about who succeeds was obviously at the forefront of everybodies thoughts who is involved with managing the club prior to the sacking.

There must now be a shortlist that DAVIES and GARTSIDE already have in mind.

The big worry is who is on the shortlist.

LEE, MEGSON?

DOWIE, JEWELL, REID?

That's the big worry.

Well bearing in mind how Gartside treated Sammy Lee, i.e giving him x number of games and if one looks at his interview where he talked about the games I think up to the Hull game and indeed I have seen suggestions in the press that he was given 5 or 6 games, on can presume that his position has been under review for several weeks, the list at the latest should have been drawn up during that period, even if Gartside was hoping that Megson would come through, otherwise he is not acting in the best interest of the club.
Had we appointed Hughes or Curbs ten minutes after we sacked him I would have applauded the decisive action.

...so yet again you find something to moan about? We've sacked the man you have hated for two years and you're still not happy.

I am, I was delighted until Jewell's name was mentioned and it became apparent that the club had not bothered to do any succession planning.

Erm, Jewell's name was mentioned by who? The press? Bookmakers?

Is that who listen to to keep your finger on the pulse?
You disappoint me, Tim, you really do.

I don't recall the club mentioning any name in public... that surely would be incompetent.....yawn.

Jewell sounds right up small time Gartsides road that is the worrying thing.

Gartside appointed Allardyce. Did you complain then?

So he has a 33% success rate not that good is it really.

Exactly, 'cos that's a grown up way of looking at it...

Well he has appointed two bad managers and one good one, how else can you represent that statistically? Out of three decisions he got two wrong.

The first one's record slightly outdid those of the latter two and therefore its not representative to say it is a 33% success rate.

But the first one's record was his record not gartsides, out of three attempts he screwed up twice and he cost us the good one by not supporting him.

And the latter two's records were those of the manager's, not Gartside's.

Anyway I thought Curtis hired Megson?

Also, you can argue that he appointed a bad manager in Megson, but it would not be fair to say the same of Sammy Lee.

Don't get me wrong, I would never have appointed Sammy Lee in a million years, but Gartside gave him his first crack at management - it didn't work out and Gartside was brave enough to act quickly before too much damage was done.

My point being that when appointed, Lee was not known to be a bad manager. It was only once he'd proved himself that you could say as much.

Tim, Why do you bang on about fat sam, his brand of football was shit............

Phill gartside made fat sam very very wealthy

Fat sam walked out on bolton

P.S. His brand of football was/is shit...

HAPPY NEW YEAR...........

i dont think PG is too bad over all, i think he took his time a little too much over the megson thing but hey, in another way he is prepared to really try to do the right thing in general even if its not what we all want.

Presuming the club "expects" us to win on Saturday and "doesn't expect" us to get anything from Arsenal away, there really is no rush to hire (or at least present) a new manager until the Arsenal game is done with. The last thing the club probably wants right now is a new manager losing his first game with us...almost guaranteed way to alienate the (boo boy) fans from the new manager.

We won't boo Owen and he knows it, you should have heard the reception he got when we played Burnley. You could see the hate in megson's ugly little face as he walked past while we chanted Coyle's name.

Shouldn't this thread now be called "Gartside is totally competent"? After all, it is now revealed that the club are very interested in Coyle...making Gartside close to being a genius.

I love Gartside.

He even replies to my emails.

He replied to mine as well but then I realised they were written by Mark Curtis and Gartside had just signed them. Apparenly Curtis is picking the team tomorrow.

Did you know that Curtis signed all the current Bolton squad?

It's true. Just ask my friend's best mate's business associate, who I can't name, for legal reasons.

Legal reasons? I know someone who can help you with all your legal matters...